please advise.. 3 heart attacks & stenosis

[jimmylesante]

Also as Johnwen et al mention taking Vit C at the right times is very important and i'm sure overlooked, at least 1hr before meals and 2hrs after meals.

[jpoww]

Jimmy, my husband takes carnitine in 3 different forms along with all the minerals and vitamins that linus pauling recommends. My husand is gluten intolerant and we have been following a low carb and low yeast diet. We eliminated all processed sugars. The only thing, is that lately we have been eating a little more fruit than usual and we ususally dont eat much of that. we grow our own.
I just cant find out what could possible cause this, he has been excerising also.

[jimmylesante]

Would Vitamin B3 as Niacin clear out the blood levels of LP(a)??
I thought the pauling therapy prevented LP(a)from attaching to plaque as the amino acids had already done that, then the LP(a) was also lifted out of the plaque-thus there will be higher levels of LP(a) in the blood but no where for them to attach.
My simplistic view- and it is that,- simplistic. Is that 3 major things make up plaque, 1)fat 2)calcium 3)Cholesterol
Therefore if it was me i'd use the Pauling therapy, plus plenty of magnesium and vitamin K2 to redistribute calcium to where it should be and i would definitely nail a good Omega 3- 3times a day

[jpoww]

My husband use to take B3 Niacin and he stop taking it because he could not put up witht he flushing effect.
Yeah I thought the pauling therapy would lower LP(a) levels also..thats why i'm shocked by his recent blood work of LP(a) increase.
Pauling says any levels of LP(a) above 20 starts to deposit on arterial walls. so your statement of
"then the LP(a) was also lifted out of the plaque-thus there will be higher levels of LP(a) in the blood but no where for them to attach."
is confusing to me.
My husband takes 1800mg-2000mg of magnesium a day. he does take fish oil and hemp oil. He doesnt take vitamin k because he is on blood thinners

[Johnwen]

[jpoww]

This clears up some of my confusion. So you think at his weight he is ok on 10mg of effient?
If the effient is causing the lp(a) to increase then your saying he should up his asprin to twice a day to counteract this. Do you think 162mg of aspirin is ok in addition to the 10mg of effient?

Should I try to see if i can get his effient decrease to 5mg? or see if he should switch back to plavix? is plavix better with the lp(a)? or the same.

If the lp(a) is in fact going to continue to go up would that mean he will be at an increase risk of another heart attack? i'm assuming the more it goes up the more plaque build up will happen right?

Now to figure out if his lp(a) on his lab was a calculation or reading, how do I know which it one is it?
The lab was done at Berkley Labs.

[Johnwen]

As I said before check with his doctor to make sure he agrees with it before changing any thing.
He knows him better then anyone here does.

Don't change to many things at one time. I would say if his doc agrees on the other increase hold a steady course and see if there is a change. Flipping things around in bulk would just add to the confusion of what does what?

This is why he's on Pauling therapy to counter the effects of the LP(a) So if there is a increase make sure he's getting the proper dosage. I would like to say it will stop it but thats something no one here on earth could give you a deffinite answer on. All we can do is make sure were doing our part to try and prevent it.

If you have a copy of their report there should be a Reference number on it. Call them and ask they can use that number to give you details on the test. If not they can check by name but it will probably require more questions. So just call them and Ask!

[jpoww]

Johnwen,

I will call Berkley Lab and find out if those LP(a) were readings or caculations? and let you know.
I will talk to his doctor about the increase in asprin and see what he says.
He is currently taking that maximum lysine amount Linus Pauling recommended. I think he is taking the following dosage
26,000 mg of vitamin c
6,000 mg of lysine
2,000 mg of proline

if you think we need to change this dosage, let me know.
Thank you for all your advice.

[jpoww]

Johnwen,

I spoke to the lab and she said she is pretty sure both of those readyings for the lp(a) are calculated readings. so what does that mean to me?

the test he took in october was lp(a) of 14 and the one he took in may the lp(a) was 20

[Johnwen]

[jpoww]

So the "calculated readings" are not the best way to go. There could be some errors done there but a 7 point difference is kind of alot for the two test being six months apart. I see what your saying about the statins but the first test he did when the lp(a) was 14 he was on 80mg of lipator and the second test he did he was on 40mg of lipator with the lp(a) being 20 so if you the statin was an issue shouldnt the lp(a) reading done on 80mg be higher then the reading he had done on 40mg of lipator?
I just dont see how the decrease in lipator could cause an increase in LP(a)

The glucose reading on the first test in october was 84
The glucose reading on the second test in may was 94

I also wanted to tell you these readings just in case they mean anything:
APO B- Particle reading in october was 75
APO B- Particle reading in may was 67
Q-LDL IIIa+b in october was 12.4
Q-LDL IIIa+b in may was 12.3
Q-LDL IVb in october was 1.5
Q-LDL IVb in may was 1.4

On the october test he had more LDL-I size particles which are the large fluffy kind and on the may test he decreased in this size particle and started to increase in the medium to small sizes so that along with the increase in the LP(a) I started to freak out thinking he is heading to making more plaque .

[Johnwen]

[jpoww]

The only reason I was freaking out was because of the increase in smaller LDL size which I know are more dangerous and the LP(a) because Linus Pauling said anything about 20 will start building plaque. I will chill out and wait til we get another Lab test done. How long do you think we should wait before getting another test done?

I wanted to ask you. My husband mixes is lysine and proline in his powdered vitamins with water and drinks it throughout the day. Do you think that will cause the lysine to breakdown and cause him not to be absorbing it much?

Please let me know what your lab guru person says about the inscrease in LP(a)

Thank You so much!

[Johnwen]

[jpoww]

I dont have any readings of APO(a) on his blood works but only APO(b). All we know is that is APO(b) and fibrogen decreased and LP(a) increased. So it sounds like your saying this is a result of the effient he is taking.
It all sounds ligit but my confusion is if it is the effient doing this, then why was his lp(a) low on the october test when he was on the effient and had been on effient since nov. of 2010 and before that he was on plavix since 2005. its not like he wasnt on effient when he had a low lp(a) reading. you see what i'm trying to say?
you said if this increase in lp(a) continues "I know what to do". What is that? increase the current 81mg of ecotrin asprin to 2? or should I see if the doctor is willing to decrease the effient from 10mg to 5mg or should I see if the doctor should switch him back to plavix?
You know I thought looking at the lp(a) would be a good indicator to see if the lysine and vitamin c are working and I thought it would be a good gauge of his increase of a threat of another heart attack but that seems to be ruined now...what number do I look at in his lab work now to help me figure out if he is doing good?