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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:25 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:36 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:32 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:15 pm
by pamojja
And here for any possible association between Lp(a), AA, Lysine (+21% hcl) and Proline all in grams per day:
(with the caveat that I only started to test Lp(a) after starting with Pauling's therapy)
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year mg/dl AA Lys Pro
2009 57 7 4 1
2010 47 18 6.3 1.8
2011 59 18 6.3 3
2012 55 25 6.4 2.9
2013 43 22 5.7 1.7
2014 47 26 4.8 1.5
2015 35 27 6 2
2016 51 22 6.5 2
2017 45 25 6.4 1.9
2018 61 28 6.2 1.7
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:56 pm
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:39 pm
by ofonorow
yet, in the AA knockout mice by Rath's group, the mice expressed Lp(a)...
I think Lp(a) is apo(a) stuck to an LDL particle, so expressing apo(a) (as in the Pauling/Rath guinea pig experiments) is considered Lp(a)..
I don't know about bears, but I doubt their arteries get occluded, is that what you are saying?
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:39 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:41 am
by ofonorow
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:08 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:25 pm
by ofonorow
I would think that in humans, apo(a) is always attached to some LDL, and thus you want the size of the Lp(a) particle - the combination. And the size of Lp(a) is of course measurable. Atherotech used to provide a wealth of information on Lp(a) size, and thus atherogenicity
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:57 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:22 am
by Frodo
I would like to wish everyone in the forum a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
And thank you for all the good advice. Especially thanks to Owen.
In health
Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:43 pm
by pamojja
Frodo wrote:I would like to wish everyone in the forum a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Yes, happiness and peace to everyone.
Though this is a really weird christmas for our family, my mother at 81 just 2 days ago got a pancreatic cancer diagnosis. And since she suffered already so many pains and aches since age 70, and doesn't want to survive my father alone, she's actually fine with it. Doesn't want to try any treatment.
Actually only had a CT which found 'suspected' pancreatic cancer. So I still hope for the best..
Myself had my first Lp(a) tested in nmol/l at 131, if I calculated it right that should come out at about 55 mg/dl. However, my latest carotid intimal-media thickness was a nice surprise (<0.9mm normal range):
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year mm
2012 1.3
2014 1.9
2016 1.8
2018 1.0
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:54 am
by Frodo
pamojja
I wish you and your mother all the best.
(Lp(a): It is not easy/possible to convert ng values into nmol values. The nmol norm is <75 nmol/according to my lab. I think 131 or my 141 value are of course too high, but not so much.)
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:59 am
by Frodo