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Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:20 am
by johnjackson
jimmylesante wrote:I'm taking about 3000mcg daily, but i'd love to see the study???
You mean 3mg?
I put 1gram into a drip.
doctors choice NAC has something else , molybdenum, in MCG, I read it wrong, yes, mg
I dont use needles, aside from donating bloood(which isnt me doing it)
https://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Reg ... B007HI7IZSNAC also helps increase nitric oxide production, which helps veins dilate and improves blood flow and might improve insulin sensitivity
another reason to be on a plant based diet..more NO than a meat/high fat diet
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 2:49 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:46 am
by BrightSideOfLife
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:34 am
by Frodo
I would be interested to know if and with what results other forum members have reduced their lp(a) with Pauling therapy.
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:14 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:49 am
by johnjackson
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:31 am
by ofonorow
Many moons ago, from memory, I had my Lp(a) tested by two labs (blood drawn the same day) and it was 3 mg/dl, Johnwen was around 2 mg/dl. Unfortunately, we didn't have baseline values to know what the starting values were. My father's side of the family (including him) all died young of massive heart attacks (50s and 60s).
A New York medical school professor once called me, and I added this story to my book, that he had performed an experiment on himself. He had taken vitamin C and lysine and measured his Lp(a) every six months, 2 or 3 times, and the Lp(a) dropped about 30%. Then he added proline, forgot to test on the 6 month, but when he did finally test, his Lp(a) was zero. (That's when he called me.)
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:00 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:04 am
by ofonorow
At one time, we tried to study this, but found out that a) labs are different, so you must use the same lab for each study subject measurement, e.g. comparing one lab to another is like apples and oranges), and b) this is when we learned the FDA allows big labs to compute (rather than measure) Lp(a). Unless the values are measured, the results are bogus and senseless.
And as Pauling/Rath mention in their first patent, Lp(a) is not uniform and can range 1000 fold. Large molecules are not as "atherogenic" (dangerous) as small particles, so absolute mass may not indicate risk.. Why they went to "particles" (e.g. mnol/l).
One thing we do know - zero (measured) is good, so long as you take regular vitamin C to keep your arteries lesion free 
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:58 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:07 am
by Frodo
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:45 am
by pamojja
Frodo wrote:Or has anyone had a similar lp(a) increase?
I already posted my lp(a) results for many years in this thread. Therefore you know already that also for me fluctuations between 34 and 66 mg/dl - almost doubling - are normally occurring
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:06 pm
by Frodo
Thanks Pamojja!
Was it always the same lab?
Did you have any surgeries in the years?
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:18 pm
by pamojja
Not always the same lab. But between the highest and lowest value it was the same.
No surgeries.
Re: German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:15 am
by Frodo