Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#46  Post by Joanna45 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:53 am

You can bet big Pharm a is behind all of that propaganda..

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#47  Post by ofonorow » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:10 pm

http://www.thesundayleader.lk/2018/07/14/do-supplements-help-heart-disease/



18 studies conducted between 1970 and 2016, after tracking more than 2 million participants, the studies revealed that they have no effect on heart disease (study author- Dr. Joonseok Kim).


For the Record

18 out of how many total studies? (We know of several large studies that did indeed show benefits from taking supplements w/r to heart disease)

How many of these 18 studies gave the participants 6 grams of vitamin C (and 6 grams of lysine)? That's easy: ZERO.

How many were actually studies (as opposed to food questionnaires)?

Here is a 2003 study - that measured blood levels - that Mr. Kim must have missed


Older Brits with Highest Blood Levels of Vitamins C have Lowest Mortality Rates
A 2003 study from the UK measured Vitamin C blood levels:

RESULTS: Strong inverse relationship for blood ascorbate (vitamin C) concentrations with all-cause and cardiovascular disease mortality, Those in the lowest fifth (< 17 micromol/L) had the highest mortality, whereas those in the highest fifth (> 66 micromol/L) had a mortality risk nearly half that (hazard ratio = 0.54; 95% CI: 0.34, 0.84). In fully adjusted models, there was no evidence for an influence of alpha-tocopherol (vitamin-E), beta-carotene, or retinol (vitamin-A) on total mortality.

Antioxidant Vitamins and Mortality in Older Persons
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14594788?dopt=Abstract
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#48  Post by Joanna45 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:03 pm

If they would just go after statins they have been proven not to prevent or make a difference in heart disease at all

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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#49  Post by Johnwen » Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:09 pm

Looks like Big Pharma is feeling the pinch and paying Big $$$ to the FDA to get results against them Dangerous ineffective SUPPLEMENTS!
They Only Give You Expensive Pee nothing else??? If you believe this, I got this nice car that was driven by a Little Ole Lady on weekends...... :D

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/89 ... 0427&faf=1
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#50  Post by ofonorow » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:20 am

https://canadafreepress.com/article/counterfeit-pharmaceuticals-kill-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-every-year

The title is:
Counterfeit pharmaceuticals kill hundreds of thousands of people every year


This is a direct attack on dietary supplements, full of deceit and lies. Thanks to a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, and other sources, we know that real pharmaceuticals, administered by doctors/hospitals are a leading cause of death and disability.

Vitamins, e.g. Vitamin C, according to the CDC, have caused zero deaths over the past many years.

references


No Deaths from ANY Dietary Supplement
Zero Fatalities from Minerals, Vitamins, Amino Acids, Herbs, Homeopathic Remedies
http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v11n02.shtml



A recent study by Dr. Bruce H. Pomeranz, the principal investigator and neuroscience professor at the University of Toronto, sheds light on this phenomenon. Dr. Pomeranz estimated that bad reactions to prescription and over-the-counter medicines kill more than 100,000 (76,000 to 137,000) Americans and seriously injure an additional 2.1 million every year. Such reactions, which do not include prescribing errors or drug abuse, rank between fourth and sixth among causes of death. His study was published in the April 15, 1998 Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), but garnered little publicity.

One month later, the same American Medical Association explained why Americans are following the Japanese lead and have turned in massive numbers to the so-called Alternative Medicine. The surprising answer? People think it works better! The surprising study appeared in the May 20, 1998 JAMA entitled WHY PATIENTS USE ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE (p. 1548-1553).
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Re: Daily Propaganda - It just keeps on coming

Post Number:#51  Post by ofonorow » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:59 am

Homeopaths are dosing kids with vitamin C to 'cure' autism
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyl ... utism.html

Horrors! (I doubt the "homeopath" claim... I bet they are giving real, large doses of vitamin C and seeing a lot of benefits!)
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