Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

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Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

Post by ofonorow » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:44 am

another brother wrote:Watched "What the Health". Strong case for plant-based diet, not sure I could go cold turkey (so to speak) but certainly will start by cutting down on meat and dairy and learning about alternative choices. (I do make a mean red beans and rice.)

What I didn't catch is why eating sugar is good. Personally, and any disease aside, my body reacts to sugar as though its an addictive toxin. I can feel it affecting me and am likely to wind up passed out after consuming even a moderate amount.


Great question! I happen to have been first educated by the second book in the Medical Medium series, just before seeing WTH? I was just getting over the shock of the medical medium saying, "avoid eggs, butter, in fact all dairy, and especially fat." When WTH? starts by saying, 'sugar doesn't cause diabetes' I immediately resonated, and both sources came together.

Sugar as glucose is like gasoline for your car engine. It is the prime nutrient to power cells.

Many things are sweetened with high FRUCTOSE corn syrup, and it is not wrong to consider HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) a poison.

Fructose sounds good, right, but the new knowledge is that both the liver and brain require GLUCOSE, and in fact the brain, contrary to popular belief is mostly carbohydrate.

Eating fat causes the liver to produce bile, the more fat, the more bile which is necessary to keep the fat from completely clogging your blood vessels.

This is the essence of the why and how fat stresses the liver, and then the body.

When there is fat in the blood stream, its like slime, lets think of pouring oil into the gas tank. It clogs the entry of glucose by blocking it, as the WTH? film clearly illustrated.

I now literally feel the fat I eat blocking sugar getting into cells, and I can monitor it on my Libre. The more FAT I eat, the harder sugar is to control, while glucose/sugar does not cause a problem. Yes more insulin is required the more sugar, but as you will learn, when glucose is DRIVEN into cells (presumably by insulin the book doesn't get to that level of detail.) the other nutrients around or with the glucose are also driven into cells. Ergo, fat in the bloodstream blocking glucose is also blocking nutrients.

Now that the stage is set..


another brother wrote:Watched "What the Health". Strong case for plant-based diet, not sure I could go cold turkey (so to speak) but certainly will start by cutting down on meat and dairy and learning about alternative choices. (I do make a mean red beans and rice.)


Your sister-in-law, and I had been doing Jason Fung's intermittent fasting, eating the main meal in a short interval, i.e., only eating between 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. daily.

With the new Medical Medium Inspired grazing routine - a fruit and vegetable every 2 hours - we are eating instead of fasting :-) No fat most of the day.


What I didn't catch is why eating sugar is good. Personally, and any disease aside, my body reacts to sugar as though its an addictive toxin. I can feel it affecting me and am likely to wind up passed out after consuming even a moderate amount.


Me too, so remember, that most products are sweetened with High Fructose Corn Syrup, which is NOT the gasoline that your cells require to function.

Eating GLUCOSE is good, as you will read, particularly in the first book chapters on Autism and PTSD.

Ordinary sugar isn't bad, lets say, even if you are diabetic, so long as you a) are producing insulin, and b) taking nutrients (think eating fruits) with the sugar, and c) limit fat (sludge) to 10% of calories.

As strange as it seems, at least to me, a diabetic needs glucose as much as anyone. Few people know that it is the fat they eat, which blocks their cells from getting the glucose they need, leading to amputations, blindness. etc. In a way, eating fat is a lot like not making insulin.
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Re: Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

Post by pamojja » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:17 am

ofonorow wrote: and in fact the brain, contrary to popular belief is mostly carbohydrate.


Not exactly:

https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/be ... cts/3461/2

Beef, variety meats and by-products, brain, raw

Calorie Information
Amounts Per 100g Serving

Calories 143 (599 kJ)

From Carbohydrate 3.7 (15.5 kJ)

From Fat 92.9 (389 kJ)

From Protein 46.4 (194 kJ)

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Post by ofonorow » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:28 pm

Could be a "black swan". Thank you pamojja.

I think Anthony claims that our brains are mostly "gylcogen" but I haven't seen that claim in writing, and he was "disconnected" during the Unknown Causes of Alzheimer's podcast. And I might have it wrong. I've wanted to listen to that talk again anyway.

So the truth of this matter depends on what constitutes "fat" in the eyes of the USDA/food authority. If Cholesterol is counted as fat, then they could both be right. And "mostly" may mean that actual fats - fatty acids - in the brain are less than the carbohydrate, assuming "glycogen" is considered or counted as carbohydrate.
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Post by ofonorow » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:19 am

pamojja, I now believe that I heard wrong, and he never said the brain was "mostly" carbohydrate, but I am quite certain he said we'd be surprised how little essential fatty acids the brain requires. The new information was the existence of a glycogen store on the order of the livers. So while I find time to relisten, if you read this, would you do me a favor and post the same USDA (fat/protein/carb) information for liver?
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Re: Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

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Post by pamojja » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:08 am

sjmusic2 wrote:I don't mean to sound harsh, but this is undermining what was until now a wonderful, science-based forum.


We old timers here have experienced psychotic episodes of Owen, like when he believed a crash with the mytical planet nimiru is immanent, or when he wanted to force every forum member here to join twitter to give him a like. This new episode too will very likely pass in a few weeks time. And all the undermining material will disappear from view again.

There is nothing further then calm reasoning, of what we can do for Owen during such difficult times, and wait till it passes again.

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Re: Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

Post by sjmusic2 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:56 am

pamojja wrote:
There is nothing further then calm reasoning, of what we can do for Owen during such difficult times, and wait till it passes again.

...maybe he can increase his AA beyond bowel tolerance and flush the silly's out :)

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Re: Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

Post by johnjackson » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:44 pm

sjmusic2 wrote:I find this sudden promotion of MM and WTH bewildering. .

what does MM stand for?
wth=what the health. right?

btw, sugar is good if you want to grow, kids need sugar/carbs
/www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12154.php


medcraveonline.com/JCCR/JCCR-09-00341.php

//riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

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Post by sjmusic2 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:33 pm

MM = medical medium

wth, correct.

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Re: Watched 'What the Health?' Eye-opening, but why is sugar good?

Post by pamojja » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:21 am

ofonorow wrote:Re WTH? - Have you seen it? Why do you need others to dissect it for you?


I could only bear to watch for 5 minutes, just too much unfounded propaganda not based on anything than faith, making me ashamed of mentioning ever having been low-fat vegetarian. I'm glad others dissected it for others, for not having to endure so much shaming.

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Post by sjmusic2 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:23 am

Owen, I appreciate your responses, but...

1/ I have both watched WTH and read Liver Rescue, so your associated points are moot.
2/ Whether you misheard or not, why wasn't a red flag raised in your mind when you believed the brain to be mostly carbs ? Blind faith acceptance = suspended objectivity = (religious) dogma.
3/ Fructose is absorbed in the small intestine by enterocytes primarily using the GLUT5 transport mechanism and high intake can influence the microbiome...
Gut microbial adaptation to dietary consumption of fructose, artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols: implications for host-microbe interactions contributing to obesity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22686435


Some of your 'facts' from MM are by definition lacking in objectivity, "because the spirit says so" does not expose it to he rigors of scientific method, imo by design. There may very well be some factual insight contained therein but it is wrapped in dogma and verifiably incorrect statements which cultivate challenges to integrity.

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Post by ofonorow » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:37 am

I listened again to UNEXPLAINED CAUSE OF ALZHEIMERS on soundcloud.
https://soundcloud.com/medicalmedium/unknown-cause-of-alzheimers

Minute 19: "Brain is not made of fat. Wrong! Wrong! Wrong" Hardly any fat

Minute 20 Second 50:: Made of carbs, made of a different type of glycogen.

Minutes 22 Second 40: Made of sugar, living carbs. Discussion of brain surgeon who agrees - brain not made of fat

Anthony made the another reference to the brain being "made out of carbohydrate" was minute 26 second 48 and then later toward the - so this is definitely a black swan if incorrect.

Thinking about it, since the brain is an electrical device, does it really make sense that it is made out of fat?


sjmusic2 wrote:Owen, I appreciate your responses, but...

1/ I have both watched WTH and read Liver Rescue, so your associated points are moot.

Great. I stand corrected. Although why would you then reference other authorities and what they think? Lets start a topic on where the documentary is wrong :-) Or continue, the only problem I had was the cardiologists interviewed who were afraid of cholesterol and salt. (Cholesterol holds fat, is it fat?)

And please confirm that it was Anthony Williams LIVER RESCUE that you read (and if so, it is surprising you didn't recognize "medical medium.")


2/ Whether you misheard or not, why wasn't a red flag raised in your mind when you believed the brain to be mostly carbs ? Blind faith acceptance = suspended objectivity = (religious) dogma.


Absolutely surprising.. But the entire picture is coming together as you read everything. Don't misread my tongue-in-check comments as my praying to a new Oracle. I want to test everything, and in particular, this idea that the brain is "mostly carbohydrate." Could the brain be firing neurons if it were mostly fat?

3/ Fructose is absorbed in the small intestine by enterocytes primarily using the GLUT5 transport mechanism and high intake can influence the microbiome...
Gut microbial adaptation to dietary consumption of fructose, artificial sweeteners and sugar alcohols: implications for host-microbe interactions contributing to obesity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22686435


Another black swan, potentially, however, as I said, we used glucose meters to measure AA entry into the blood stream - in 3 minutes. Johnwen, (bless his heart, hope he is well) argued strongly for entry through the intestinal tract. Doesn't/can't happen in 3 minutes
https://www.vitamincfoundation.org/pdfs/Final-BioPaper-Jom-April-2018.pdf
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Some of your 'facts' from MM are by definition lacking in objectivity, "because the spirit says so" does not expose it to he rigors of scientific method, imo by design. There may very well be some factual insight contained therein but it is wrapped in dogma and verifiable incorrect statements which cultivate challenges to integrity.


Yes, this is strange, to say the least. "Some" factual insight? This is the purpose of this forum and the debate. You also need to open your mind that everything you learned may have been in error. I am only 3 weeks in, and in awe. I have to revise many of my articles, and if you believe in Earth science so much, why then hasn't Linus Pauling theory and treatment for CVD ever been investigated?
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