German trying to use PT to lower Lp(a) without success

[Frodo]

[Frodo]

[Frodo]

[pamojja]

And here for any possible association between Lp(a), AA, Lysine (+21% hcl) and Proline all in grams per day:
(with the caveat that I only started to test Lp(a) after starting with Pauling's therapy)

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year  mg/dl  AA  Lys   Pro

2009   57    7   4     1
2010   47   18   6.3   1.8
2011   59   18   6.3   3
2012   55   25   6.4   2.9
2013   43   22   5.7   1.7
2014   47   26   4.8   1.5
2015   35   27   6     2
2016   51   22   6.5   2
2017   45   25   6.4   1.9
2018   61   28   6.2   1.7

[Frodo]

[ofonorow]

yet, in the AA knockout mice by Rath's group, the mice expressed Lp(a)...

I think Lp(a) is apo(a) stuck to an LDL particle, so expressing apo(a) (as in the Pauling/Rath guinea pig experiments) is considered Lp(a)..

I don't know about bears, but I doubt their arteries get occluded, is that what you are saying?

[Frodo]

[ofonorow]

[Frodo]

[ofonorow]

I would think that in humans, apo(a) is always attached to some LDL, and thus you want the size of the Lp(a) particle - the combination. And the size of Lp(a) is of course measurable. Atherotech used to provide a wealth of information on Lp(a) size, and thus atherogenicity

[Frodo]

[Frodo]

I would like to wish everyone in the forum a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

And thank you for all the good advice. Especially thanks to Owen.

In health
Frodo

[pamojja]

I would like to wish everyone in the forum a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Yes, happiness and peace to everyone.

Though this is a really weird christmas for our family, my mother at 81 just 2 days ago got a pancreatic cancer diagnosis. And since she suffered already so many pains and aches since age 70, and doesn't want to survive my father alone, she's actually fine with it. Doesn't want to try any treatment.

Actually only had a CT which found 'suspected' pancreatic cancer. So I still hope for the best..


Myself had my first Lp(a) tested in nmol/l at 131, if I calculated it right that should come out at about 55 mg/dl. However, my latest carotid intimal-media thickness was a nice surprise (<0.9mm normal range):

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year mm
2012 1.3
2014 1.9
2016 1.8
2018 1.0

[Frodo]

pamojja

I wish you and your mother all the best.

(Lp(a): It is not easy/possible to convert ng values into nmol values. The nmol norm is <75 nmol/according to my lab. I think 131 or my 141 value are of course too high, but not so much.)

[Frodo]