Vitamin C Forum

ofonorow wrote:So the theory you subscribe to is that some kind of electrical effect causes flu epidemics? Is that right? I'll leave that alone.

ofonorow wrote:Missing from your list are the "poisons" that are deliberately introduced via vaccines, e.g. retroviruses, parasites, magnetic bacteria, graphene?

The gentleman "virologist" starts off with an incorrect statement, that science is an attempt to "Prove something." Other than pure mathematics (and medical pseudo science) there are merely theories in science, nothing is proven.

Granted, PCR testing as used to test for Covid has been a fraud. even our corrupt CDC agrees.

Even if Covid-sars-co2 is "fabricated," implying the sequence does not or cannot exist, he does not explain how this finding invalidates that field of virology? Other than repeating the words "unscientific" a absurdiam..

These arguments are about corruption in science and medicine, but not arguments against virology, per se. Maybe the language issue makes it hard to understand his point.

A thought, where are the control experiments showing that poisoning (killing) cells creates infectious disease? Diseases that are transmitted between humans, versus diseases that are only transmitted among different species, and the few diseases that can jump from animal to human, and visa versa?

So lets consider the anti-virals, e.g. ivermectin, HCQ, and even vitamin C and lysine. We have (think we have) known since Klenner in the 1940s that IV/C could control (cure) Polio (thought to be a virus How do these anti-virals work then, if not to inactivate a virus, or a fungal spore? What we think we know is that whatever is causing the common cold, EBOLA, flu, AIDS, etc. is a thousand times smaller than a typical bacteria. The disease requires proximity, to be transmitted from one person to another. The anti-virals seem to work, in conjunction with zinc, by allowing zinc inside the cell which can block the reproduction of... what?

I'm sorry this discussion doesn't invalidate the field of virology.

Meanwhile, as we worked on the isolation of the retrovirus in our lab, it was difficult to maintain cultures because the retrovirus caused the cells to die at a rapid rate...

Finally, we used a clone of the human T-cell line Hut-78, which could support virus production and allow us to grow enough of the virus so we could characterize it.

Our breakthrough was to show we could first infect primary human T-cells with this virus, then showed we could tranmit the virus to the Hut-78 cell line.

This clearly showed the LAV virus (as named by Novelist Montagnier - and later renamed HIV) was infectious AND transmissible.

ofonorow wrote:Sorry I cannot resist. The virology-deniers crowd maintains that viruses have not been isolated and not shown to cause disease. Turns out this claim is false. While Judy Mikovitz is a brilliant researcher with a PhD, she was a technician when the first retrovirus was "isolated". The scientist was Dr. Francis W. Ruscetti. On page 65 of their book ENDING PLAGUE, Ruscetti writes

That is impossible. Viruses (fungal spores) are so small, a thousand times smaller than an average bacteria, that it is impossible to filter a virus.

Denying science doesn't gain your side any points.

Even more interesting is the 2 hour Tent lecture "Its Not Auto-immune, its Viruses" that provides a primer on how viruses (in vaccines) were discovered, and how viruses and other pathogens are being used as bioweapons. and what condition/disease various viruses cause. This is quite an education on virology.