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I don't like the form of vitamin C
vitamin B2 is used to turn the drink color orange
remedy for CHF in Europe is CoQ10 (ubiquinol) ... 600 mg daily in the beginning
supplements do not include Pauling's basic regimen
plus a multi vitamin/mineral tablet
Father bruises so easily and bleeds like crazy from minor cuts/scrapes that I really wonder. So will hold off on things like Vit E or Omega-3 until someone can clear this issue up for us.
jharp wrote:Major concerns about any impact on blood. ... Father bruises so easily and bleeds like crazy from minor cuts/scrapes that I really wonder. So will hold off on things like Vit E or Omega-3 until someone can clear this issue up for us.
jharp wrote:If someone here can recommend a reasonably priced, high-quality multi-V, I'll certainly reconsider.
jharp wrote:I'm puzzled by claims that only Hydrogen Ascorbate works. Where's the science to back up that claim? Stuff I've read said the common ascorbate forms disassociate well in intestine and individual components then absorbed. So how could there be a difference? As a layperson, I don't get it.
jharp wrote:I'm aware of Vit E, Omega-3, Nattokinase, Curcumin, Bromelain, Ginger, and Garlic.
Agents That May Increase Risk of Bleeding or Clotting:
Agents reported to cause clinically significant bleeding in case report(s):
Garlic (Allium sativum), ginger, Ginkgo biloba, saw palmetto (Serenoa repens).
Agents that may increase risk of bleeding (based on evidence from basic science, animal study, human case reports/trials, expert opinion, or anecdote):
Acacia, acerola, aconite, agrimony, alfalfa (Medicago sativa)*, aloe, alpha-linolenic acid, alpinia, American ginseng (Panax quinquifolius), American pawpaw, Andrographis paniculata Nees, angelica (Angelica archangelica)*, angel's trumpet, anise (Pimpinella anisum)*, aniseed, annatto, aortic acid, arabinogalactan, arginine (L-arginine), aristolochia, arnica (Arnica montana), asafetida (Ferula asafetida)*, ashwagandha (Withania somnifera L.), aspen bark**, astragalus, avocado (Persea americana), babassu, banaba, barley, Bear's garlic, Bellis perennis, beta-sitosterol, bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus), birch (Betula barosma)**, black cohosh (Cimifuga racemosa)**, black currant, bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosis), blessed thistle, bogbean (Menyanthes trifoliata), boldo (Peumus boldus), borage seed oil, breviscapine, bromelain (Anas comosus), bupleurum, burdock (Arctium lappa), calamus, calendula, capsicum, cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa), celery (Apium graveolens)*, chamomile (Matricaria recutita)*, chaparral (Larrea tridentate (DC) Coville, Larrea divaricata Cav.), chia, chlorella, chondroitin sulfate, cinnamon*, clove (Eugenia aromatica), codonopsis, coenzyme Q10, coleus (Coleus forskohlii), coltsfoot, cordyceps (Cordyceps sinensis), cowhage, cranberry, daisy, dandelion (Taraxacum officinale)*, danshen (Salvia miltiorrhiza), Datura wrightii, desert parsley, devil's claw (Harpagophytum procumbens), DHEA, diallyl trisulfide, dong quai (Angelica sinensis), echistatin, elder, EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid), evening primrose oil (Oenothera biennis)***, fennel (Foeniculum vulgare Mill.), fenugreek (Trigonella foenum-graecum)*, feverfew (Tanacetum parthenium)***, fig (Ficus carica), fisetin, fish oil***, flavonoids, flaxseed/flax powder (not a concern with flaxseed oil), forskolin, fucus, gamma-linolenic acid, gamma-oryzanol, Ganoderma japonicum, garlic (Allium sativum)***, genistein, German chamomile, ginger (Zingiber officinalis)***, ginkgo (Ginkgo biloba)***, ginseng (Panax spp.)***, globe artichoke (Cynara scolymus L.), goldenseal (Hydrastis canadensis L.), grape seed (Vitis vinifera), grapefruit juice, green tea (Camellia sinensis), ground ivy, guarana, guggul (Commiphora mukul), gymnema, gymnestra, hawthorn, heartsease**, hirudin, holy basil, horny goat weed, horse chestnut (Aesculus hippocastanum)*, horseradish (Radicula armoracia), jackfruit, jequirity, jiaogulan, juniper, Kan Jang, kava, kelp, kinetin, kiwi, kudzu, lady's mantle, Lathyrus, lavender, lemongrass, leopard's bane (Arnica montana), licorice (liquorice) (Glycyrrhiza glabra)***, ling zhi, lotus, lovage root, male fern (Dryopteris filix-mas), marjoram, meadowsweet (Spirea/Filipendula ulmaria)**, melatonin, methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), mistletoe, modified citrus pectin, mugwort, mullein, nettle, niacin, nopal, nordihydroguairetic acid (NDGA), northern prickly ash, octacosanol, omega-3 fatty acids, onion, oregano, pagoda tree, pantethine, papain, papaw, papaya, parsley (Petroselinum crispum), passion flower (Passiflora incarnata), PC-SPES, peony, policosanol, polypodium, poplar**, populus, prickly ash (Zanthoxylum spp.)*, propolis, PSK, Pycnogenol® (Pinus pinaster ssp. atlantica), quassia (Picrasma excelsa)*, quercetin, quinine, red clover (Trifolium pratense)*, red yeast rice, rehmannia, reishi (Ganoderma lucidum), resveratrol, rhubarb, Roman chamomile, rose hip, rosemary, rue, rutin, safflower, sage, sarsaparilla**, sassafras, savory, saw palmetto (Serenoa repens), schisandra, scotch broom, sea buckthorn, seaweed, selenium, SHA-10, shea, shiitake mushroom (Lentinus edodes), Siberian ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus), sorrel, southern prickly ash, soy***, Spanish bayonet (Yucca spp.), spirulina, St. John's wort, star anise, stinging nettle, strawberry, sweet birch**, sweet clover (Melilotus spp.)*, sweet marjoram, sweet woodruff, tamanu, tamarind, tarragon, taurine, tea, thyme, tonka bean, turmeric (Curcuma longa), usnea, vanilla, verbena, vitamin A, vitamin C***, vitamin E***, wasabi, watercress (Nasturtium officinale), wheatgrass, wild carrot, wild lettuce, willow, willow bark (Salix spp.)**, wintergreen**, yarrow, yew, yohimbe.
Possible pro-coagulant herbs and supplements (based on evidence from basic science, animal study, human case reports/trials, expert opinion, or anecdote):
Abuta, acerola, aconite, African wild potato, agrimony, alfalfa, annatto, apricot, arnica, astragalus, bael, bilberry, black haw, blessed thistle, cat's claw, chlorella, coenzyme Q10, cordyceps, DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone), dong quai, ginseng, goldenrod, goldenseal, guggul, horsetail, jequirity, jiaogulan, lime, melatonin (multiple cases of prothrombin time (PT) reductions in patients on warfarin, some with minor bleeding possibly due to warfarin), milk thistle, mistletoe, myrcia, nopal, Panax ginseng (may decrease anticoagulant effect of warfarin), psyllium, raspberry, rhubarb, sage, scotch broom, shepherd's purse, skunk cabbage, stinging nettle, tamanu, tea, white oak, white water lily, yarrow.
Vitamin K-rich foods or herbs that may decrease anticoagulant effects of warfarin (Coumadin®) (based on evidence from basic science, animal study, human case reports/trials, expert opinion, or anecdote)
Beet greens, Bolthouse® Bom Dia Acai Berry With Blueberry Juice, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, collard greens, dandelion greens, endive, green pepper, kale, mustard greens, okra, red leaf lettuce, sauerkraut, spinach, spring onions, Swiss chard, turnip greens, white cabbage.
NOTE: Because passionflower, hydroalcoholic extracts, juniper, and Verbena officinalis supply variable quantities of vitamin K, they may lessen the effect of oral anticoagulant therapy.
NOTE: This is not an all-inclusive list.
* Agents with coumarin constituents.
** Agents with salicylate constituents.
*** Agents that inhibit platelets.
jharp wrote:
I'm puzzled by claims that only Hydrogen Ascorbate works. Where's the science to back up that claim? Stuff I've read said the common ascorbate forms disassociate well in intestine and individual components then absorbed. So how could there be a difference? As a layperson, I don't get it.
I also notice Cardio-C has Vitamin B2 in it. How does that factor into PT?
Carvedilol - 3.125 mg twice a day (was 6.25 mg but cardiologist reduced few days ago due to slow pulse)
Sertraline - 25 mg once a day
My father's health worsened significantly and I insisted we go to ER. Admitted immediately. Hemoglobin only 6.3. They attributed to bleeding somewhere in GI tract. Got 3 units. So glad we went when we did. Things were getting really bad.
Xarelto - 15 mg once a day
(His physicians have changed plans and now they want to install pacemaker before doing any more testing!!)
Also, they seem to only be concerned with serum levels and they say those numbers are OK, Except LOW Potassium which they are supplementing orally. They will not give him supplemental Magnesium or Ubiquinol.
pamojja wrote:I actually can prevent the bleeding by simply using PPC (Polyphosphatidylcholine) along with the baby-aspirin.
yomama wrote:pamojja wrote:I actually can prevent the bleeding by simply using PPC (Polyphosphatidylcholine) along with the baby-aspirin.
Sorry for bumping an old thread but that really caught my interest, is that compund the same available through the Soy Lecithin? Do you have any reference for this/what is the mechanism behind or is just a personal experience? Last question, is this related to the chemistry of aspirin or works for everything?
I'm used to take a mix of herbs and I'm always worried about dosage to avoid the additive/excessive blood thinning effect.
Thanks
skwoodwiva wrote:Double BUMP.
Is lecithin a substitute?
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