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Unless indicated, vitamin C was provided in double distilled drinking water containing 150 mg/L ascorbic acid (Sigma) and 0.01 mM EDTA (Sigma) in addition to 10 g/L of sucrose. Water was changed twice a week. In addition, vitamin C was provided in food fortified with 500 ppm L-ascorbyl-polyphosphate, milled at Test Diet® as a Modified Custom Lab Diet #5A38. During the study mice consumed on average 4 g of food and drank about 5 mL of water daily.
Johnwen wrote:Unless indicated, vitamin C was provided in double distilled drinking water containing 150 mg/L ascorbic acid (Sigma) and 0.01 mM EDTA (Sigma) in addition to 10 g/L of sucrose. Water was changed twice a week. In addition, vitamin C was provided in food fortified with 500 ppm L-ascorbyl-polyphosphate, milled at Test Diet® as a Modified Custom Lab Diet #5A38. During the study mice consumed on average 4 g of food and drank about 5 mL of water daily.
Nothing like stacking the deck against the V-C!
99.985% More sugar (sucrose) then V-C mixed in the same liquid!
Simply said; They might as well not given them any V-C to begin with because the sugar just wiped out the effects of the V-C!!’
If they had LP(a) in their blood why didn’t they add lysine to the mix at least the sugar won’t have wiped out it’s effects!!
500ppm (Parts Per MILLION) I breath in more then that when I open a bottle of V-C!!
GARBAGE SCIENCE AT IT”S BEST!!!!!!
Try this! Did you know drinking Fruit Juices causes Kidney Stones???
Ask your self this! Why haven’t I heard about this?? Maybe it’s $$$$
How about Just blaming the V-C component? Yea! They ain’t got NO $$$$
Well Here it is simple chemistry!!
5 C7H8O7 + 7 H2O = 3 H2C2O4 + 6 C4H8O5
Johnwen wrote:Which is why orange juice is not a good source of V-C...Taking V-C with any form of sugar is never a good idea!
Drinking Orange juice a good source of Citric acid and is also not a very good source of V-C
Unless indicated, vitamin C was provided in double distilled drinking water containing 150 mg/L ascorbic acid (Sigma) and 0.01 mM EDTA (Sigma) in addition to 10 g/L of sucrose. Water was changed twice a week. In addition, vitamin C was provided in food fortified with 500 ppm L-ascorbyl-polyphosphate, milled at Test Diet® as a Modified Custom Lab Diet #5A38. During the study mice consumed on average 4 g of food and drank about 5 mL of water daily.
Nothing like stacking the deck against the V-C!
99.985% More sugar (sucrose) then V-C mixed in the same liquid!
Simply said; They might as well not given them any V-C to begin with because the sugar just wiped out the effects of the V-C!!’
If they had LP(a) in their blood why didn’t they add lysine to the mix at least the sugar won’t have wiped out it’s effects!!
500ppm (Parts Per MILLION) I breath in more then that when I open a bottle of V-C!!
GARBAGE SCIENCE AT IT”S BEST!!!!!!"
JohnCCha wrote:With this, I would like to address some key points that were not understood/misunderstood.
JohnCCha wrote:The transgenic knockout mouse is a system to study human atherogenesis in a mouse. Some things are the same, other things are different such as size and dimension.
"It occurs to me that your particular mouse model might be appropriate to assess the question of whether the inclusion in the diet of large amounts of proline/lysine actually can help prevent the deposition of lipoprotein(a)."
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