Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

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Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

Post by DiverDown2 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:02 am

With heart disease what kind of diet do you recommend?
EX: Low Carb High Good Fat or what is best for heart?

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Re: Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

Post by Joanna45 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:58 am

Watch the Netflix video Forks Over Knives ..I try to eat as close to that as possible

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Re: Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

Post by ofonorow » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:08 am

Good question, no easy answer because we are all different. However, in general, the High Fat/Low Carb - adequate protein diet is wise. You can learn about this from reading the late Dr. Atkin's books (he was a cardiologist). A very low carb diet can have excellent results improving your blood panels. Dr. Stephen Grundry, another more orthodox cardiologist wrote a book entitled DIET EVOLUTION. Grundy claims patients adopting his diet no longer need his services as a heart doctor. He has no knowledge of vitamin C, but recommends a modified Atkins. (Grundy allows more carbs after the initial very low carb program).

On the other side of the coin we have Pritikin (Low Fat/High Carb) and Dean Ornish claim that their Low-Fat diets reduce heart disease.

We often repeat the story of William Kelly, a promoter of pancreatic enzymes for cancers, who could see his own tumors and created a diet that caused them to shrink. However, the same diet on his 3rd wife caused her to become deathly ill. In desperation, he turned to an all fat/high protein diet, and she thrived. He invented (or borrowed) the concept of "metabolic type" to try and predict what kind of diet is best for a particular cancer patient. I think it boils down to your ancestry. If your ancestors lived in the Northern latitudes, where fruit and vegetables were scarce, and meat was a staple, your digestive system is slow and you can easily digest meats. The closer your ancestors where to the equator, the more carbs they ate, and the faster their digestion. Most of us are probably mixed by now.

Added... Given the Pauling/Rath Unified Theory, that a lack of vitamin C is the root cause of CVD, then any diet that interferes with Vitamin C is problematic. According to John Ely, and others, high blood sugar, caused by a high carb diet, can interfere with the cellular uptake of "vitamin" C (ascorbate).

Also, doctor and author Jason Fung has done a wonderful job researching whether High Fat diets are dangerous or cause heart disease. He like may others before him who analyzed the studies and data, have found NO evidence that a high fat diet contributes or causes heart disease. He points out that this is especially true if you remove the variable of "trans fats" from the equation. Ordinary natural, even saturated fats, have never been scientifically linked to heart disease.
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Re: Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

Post by DiverDown2 » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:17 pm

Is the Mediterranean diet heart healthy and is it good with PT?

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Re: Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

Post by ofonorow » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:17 am

If your "metabolic type" can avoid high carbs, then any high fat/ordinary protein diet would in theory be okay.

Apparently, fasting (not eating) works best :-) . . . based on improvements in lab values.



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Re: Best Diet for Preventing Heart Disease

Post by johnjackson » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:05 pm

I thought this was a 2 fold issue
1 preventing heart issues requires grams of Vit C and lysine/proline with some added vit k2
as a foundation
vit D
correct hormones all matter

then you have the other things that a diet needs to do.... #1..dont get fat...obesity leads to many diseases
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22530540

and a high fat diet? well, lots of fat seems to bring its own issues
as dr mcdougall explains with books and videos and dr ornish, etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyRuDpqYuvY

what about a high fat diet that doesnt lead to weight gain?
Id worry about getting nitric oxide going......but maybe it wont' matter with lots of AA?
https://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testos ... Oxide.aspx
/www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12154.php


medcraveonline.com/JCCR/JCCR-09-00341.php

//riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

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