High Lp(a)
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 9:11 am
Thanks for your quick answer. I was on the Ketogenic diet, guess thats ruled out now.
I have just ordered proline and will up the vit c.
Sorry to bother you again, ALL fats, even fish, avocado, nuts?
I have been doing Pauling therapy ( 6g vitc , 3g lysine, 500mg Niacin) for 3 months now and ...
What am I doing wrong? The dose?
How to Live Longer and Feel Better
- Take vitamin C every day, 6 grams to 18 g (6000 to 18,000 milligrams), or more. Do not miss a single day.
- Take vitamin E every day, 400 IU, 800 IU, or 1600 IU.
- Take one or two Super-B tablets every day, to provide good amounts of the B-vitamins.
- Take 25,000 IU vitamin A tablet every day.
- Take a mineral supplement every day, such as one tablet of the Bronson vitamin-mineral formula, which provides 100 mg of calcium, 18 mg of iron, 0.15 mg of iodine, 1 mg of copper, 25 mg of magnesium, 3 mg of manganese, 15 mg of zinc, 0.015 mg of molybdenum, 0.015 mg of chromium, and 0.015 mg of selenium.
- Keep your intake of ordinary sugar (sucrose, raw sugar, brown sugar, honey) to 50 pounds per year, which is half the present U.S. average. Do not add sugar to tea or coffee. Do not eat high-sugar foods. Avoid sweet desserts. Do not drink soft drink.
- Except for avoiding sugar, eat what you like - but not too much of any one food. Eggs and meat are good foods. Also you should eat some vegetables and fruits. Do not eat so much food as to become obese.
- Drink plenty of water every day.
- Keep active; take some exercise. Do not at any time exert yourself physically to an extent far beyond what you are accustomed to.
- Drink alcoholic beverages only in moderation.
- Do not smoke cigarettes.
- Avoid stress. Work at a job that you like. Be happy with your family.
pamojja wrote:The advise of the MedicalMedium Oven promotes these day is in complete contradiction to Linus Pauling's protocol. I wouldn't take the risks proceeding out of blind belief, which also Pauling disadvised.
ofonorow wrote:Fat? Maybe the contradiction in your mind has to do with MM suggesting that fat in the diet should be reduced to 15% of calories? Certainly, Pauling had no fear about fat in the diet, that's true.
- Keep your intake of ordinary sugar (sucrose, raw sugar, brown sugar, honey) to 50 pounds per year, which is half the present U.S. average. Do not add sugar to tea or coffee. Do not eat high-sugar foods. Avoid sweet desserts. Do not drink soft drink.
- Except for avoiding sugar, eat what you like - but not too much of any one food. Eggs and meat are good foods. Also you should eat some vegetables and fruits. Do not eat so much food as to become obese.
I see no direct contradiction with the Pauling/Rath theory of heart disease
Exactly. I've been a low fat vegetarian for 30 years starting from age 10. No eggs, fish or additional fats. Culminated in a 80% stenosis at my abdominal aorta. And a walking disability.
Linus Pauling wrote: Keep your intake of ordinary sugar (sucrose, raw sugar, brown sugar, honey) to 50 pounds per year, which is half the present U.S. average. Do not add sugar to tea or coffee. Do not eat high-sugar foods. Avoid sweet desserts. Do not drink soft drink.
Except for avoiding sugar, eat what you like - but not too much of any one food. Eggs and meat are good foods. Also you should eat some vegetables and fruits. Do not eat so much food as to become obese.
Following these recommendations by Linus Pauling, I eliminated any added sugar, and especially added daily eggs, weekly fish and occasional (organic) meat along with healthy fats back into my diet.
Found only reduction of carbohydrates reversed my prediabetes. And thereby experienced remission. By following Paulings advise in complete opposition to MMs, and on which low-fat diet I actually developed my serious condition in the first place.
Found only reduction of carbohydrates reversed my prediabetes.
ofonorow wrote:The new-found knowledge suggests that had you supplemented with vitamin C, and perhaps other nutrients you were missing by avoiding eggs and fish, you may have been much better, if not well.
ofonorow wrote:What I am suggesting is trying to take any extra sugar - as glucose/dextrose, instead of sucrose (w/fructose).
ofonorow wrote:I'm also pointing out that we absolutely need a certain amount of glucose, so people on Keto-like diets shouldn't consider glucose "wasted" calories.
ofonorow wrote:Finally, while this is not said in the MM books, I INFER from what is said, insulin is REQUIRED for nutrients to first be processed by the liver, so they may be utilized by cells in the rest of the body.
ofonorow wrote:You blame the low-fat diet, and I would suggest that your low-vitamin C diet was more likely the root cause of your stenosis.
ofonorow wrote:I still don't see the 'complete opposition' with Pauling, unless you consider sugar the same as glucose? I don't. The suggestion to reduce fat has to do with the load eating fat puts on the liver, and most people have toxic livers. If your liver is healthy and you are toxin free, the books do not suggest that everyone should reduce fats to 15% of calories.
ofonorow wrote:Yes, we learn from Dr. Atkins and others that carbohydrates, strangely, increase triglycerides; (fat in the blood). But these high triglycerides apper to be more of a function of the typical American Diet. Eating some fruits and vegetables as Pauling recommended, should not inordinately raise triglycerides.
ofonorow wrote:I think it is interesting that under this theory, "insulin resistance" is a mechanism whereby the body protects what little glucose their is in the blood rom entering muscles, by creating insulin resistance, so the sparse glucose can make it to the brain/liver.
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Name: Owen R Fonorow |
Study Result
Component Results
Cholesterol Your Value
132 mg/dL Standard Range 0 - 199 mg/dL
Triglycerides Your Value 125 mg/dL Standard Range 30 - 150 mg/dL
HDL Your Value 34 mg/dL Standard Range >=41 mg/dL Flag L
LIPID PANEL W/CALC LDL - Details
LDL Calculated Your Value 73 mg/dL Standard Range 0 - 99 mg/dL
Collected on 05/06/2021 2:42 PM (Blood)
Resulted on 05/06/2021 3:42 PM
Result Status: Final result
ofonorow wrote:We will have to agree to disagree.
pamojja wrote:ofonorow wrote:We will have to agree to disagree.
Fine with me.
You're probably aware that triglicerides close to 150 mg/dl indicate your LDLs are mostly small-dense and oxidized, but are taking the risk?
ofonorow wrote:Science is a tool, and I don't distrust science. I distrust today's pharmaceutical marketing programs disguised or mislabelled as 'science." I am wary when real scientists are prevented from speaking or publishing based on politics.
ofonorow wrote:By the way, your personal experiments, while laudable, are not science.
ofonorow wrote:As far as Anthony William, you are heavily influenced by where the information comes from. I am more interested in the truth and falsity of the information.