Magnesium Glycinate For Sleep 200mg A Day Safe?

[harleyquin]

Hi does anyone know if it is safe to take 200mg of magnesium biglycinate at night to help sleep. I know Andrew Saul advised it in the past, I have been taking it for a few months after suffering from insomnia for a long time, it has really helped me and I am hoping this is a safe dose but I am unsure and hoping for some guidance. Is this a safe dose or should I go down to 100mg or 50mg etc.

Thanks for any support.

[pamojja]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_glycinate

It contains 14.1% elemental magnesium by mass. Accordingly, 141 mg of elemental magnesium is contained in 1000 mg of magnesium glycinate.

Therefore 200mg contain 28.2mg of elemental magnesium. Why you are so afraid of such a tiny bid of magnesium?

I take up to 2.8 g/d of elemental magnesium. I know for me its not only safe, but needed against Mg-deficiency. That amount probably would cause anyone else diarhea. The only way to know firsthand is try small dose, and increase gradually with any nutrient, for knowing how much you can tolerate.

But the tiny 28.2mg Mg could hardly cause anyone any problem.

[harleyquin]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_glycinate

It contains 14.1% elemental magnesium by mass. Accordingly, 141 mg of elemental magnesium is contained in 1000 mg of magnesium glycinate.

Therefore 200mg contain 28.2mg of elemental magnesium. Why you are so afraid of such a tiny bid of magnesium?

I take up to 2.8 g/d of elemental magnesium. I know for me its not only safe, but needed against Mg-deficiency. That amount probably would cause anyone else diarhea. The only way to know firsthand is try small dose, and increase gradually with any nutrient, for knowing how much you can tolerate.

But the tiny 28.2mg Mg could hardly cause anyone any problem.

Ok cool, can it cause kidney stones or is it bad for your body in any way with sodium ascorbate 1000mg a day and fish oil? Thanks for the input!
Oh I also take bovine collagen too!

[pamojja]

Can only speak for myself. The daily gram doses of magnesium, sodium, potassium ascorbic acid and fish-oil didn't cause kidney stones, but reversed CKD stage 1 for me.

But less then my in average daily 1.8g of magnesium, 1.7g sodium, 1.6g potassium, 25g of ascorbic acid or 4g of EPA/DHA content with fish-oil I can't guarantee anything

[harleyquin]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_glycinate

It contains 14.1% elemental magnesium by mass. Accordingly, 141 mg of elemental magnesium is contained in 1000 mg of magnesium glycinate.

Therefore 200mg contain 28.2mg of elemental magnesium. Why you are so afraid of such a tiny bid of magnesium?

I take up to 2.8 g/d of elemental magnesium. I know for me its not only safe, but needed against Mg-deficiency. That amount probably would cause anyone else diarhea. The only way to know firsthand is try small dose, and increase gradually with any nutrient, for knowing how much you can tolerate.

But the tiny 28.2mg Mg could hardly cause anyone any problem.

Ok cool, can it cause kidney stones or is it bad for your body in any way with sodium ascorbate 1000mg a day and fish oil? Thanks for the input!
Oh I also take bovine collagen too!

I stopped taking it because the sleep aid wore off : ( Dr.Berg said to try vitamin b1 which I am worked for a few days, hopefully it continues and doesn't wear off in a month like magnesium. Is b1 safe to take, and what about micronized creatine for weight lifting (such as from allmax-creatine)? Does creatine have any negative effects, is it safe for the kidneys and heart etc?

Thanks

[jimmylesante]

Hey Pamojja interesting amount of Magnesium you take. it does need weaning up to those doses. I remember the boarding school i went to had large amounts of magnesium in the water supply due to it being an old mine etc. First two years most of the new kids had diarrhoea before the body got used to it.
Most kidney stones, i believe over 80% are calcium deposits so magnesium being a calcium channel blocker should b a preventative.
Interesting thought Pamojja what your blood pressure is? Did it help your CKD by reducing blood pressure, or was that only part of it? I'm guessing your Calcium score would be zero?

[pamojja]

..large amounts of magnesium in the water supply due to it being an old mine etc. First two years most of the new kids had diarrhoea before the body got used to it.

Actually I too get large parts with Mg-sulfate mineral water. 1 g of elemental Mg a liter. And actually is recommended at only one glass against constipation. I need so much because of muscle-cramps and repeadetdly tested deficiency. I still do get diarhea, but only mornings after sleep. So I guess despite - enough got absorbed during the 23 hrs transit times.

Interesting thought Pamojja what your blood pressure is? Did it help your CKD by reducing blood pressure, or was that only part of it? I'm guessing your Calcium score would be zero?

Always been 110/72 in average. Only in doctors offices when insulted for refusing conventional medicine, it shot up, and promptly prescribed medication. Of course refused too, staying away from conventional docs alone helps.

Have no access to calcium score. But max. CIMT did take 7 years to decrease (7 years ago), probably due to my very intractable Mg-deficiency.

I'm actually go blind since covid. The idiocy experienced there since is just to much for me. Even with my otherwise reasonable GP.

[pamojja]

Is b1 safe to take, and what about micronized creatine ...

Please seriously inform yourself. Essiental or conditionally essental nutrients are not only safe to take, but if not taken lead to multiple chronic diseases.

Side effects might also occure due to many reason. One being taking one nutrient at sufficient therapeutic doses, depleting co-factor nutrients, and thereby indirectly causeing other deficiencies. But no deaths as in the 100-thousands with prescribed pharmaceutical or invasive projedures.

After informing yourself - there are many websides with monographs with all in and outs of semi-essientals nutrients - always start with lowest possible doses, increase gradually within weeks, month and years (it takes time to heal with nutrients, deficiencies also took theire toll during decades..). Because nobody can predict how many deficiencies or allegies you already carry. So what is safe for me, might cause a crisis in an other.

However, with not corrected deficiencies chronic diseases is usually the certain outcome. In most cases, as there are some who smoke, drink and eat junk up to ripe age without supplementing and still reaching high age in health. I'm not one of them, and most aren't.

[harleyquin]

Is b1 safe to take, and what about micronized creatine ...

Please seriously inform yourself. Essiental or conditionally essental nutrients are not only safe to take, but if not taken lead to multiple chronic diseases.

Side effects might also occure due to many reason. One being taking one nutrient at sufficient therapeutic doses, depleting co-factor nutrients, and thereby indirectly causeing other deficiencies. But no deaths as in the 100-thousands with prescribed pharmaceutical or invasive projedures.

After informing yourself - there are many websides with monographs with all in and outs of semi-essientals nutrients - always start with lowest possible doses, increase gradually within weeks, month and years (it takes time to heal with nutrients, deficiencies also took theire toll during decades..). Because nobody can predict how many deficiencies or allegies you already carry. So what is safe for me, might cause a crisis in an other.

However, with not corrected deficiencies chronic diseases is usually the certain outcome. In most cases, as there are some who smoke, drink and eat junk up to ripe age without supplementing and still reaching high age in health. I'm not one of them, and most aren't.

I have been taking 100mg before bed of b1 for sleep, and I have been feeling dizzy upon waking up

[pamojja]

I have been taking 100mg before bed of b1 for sleep, and I have been feeling dizzy upon waking up

You see, everyone reacts differently due to different combinations of deficiencies. Therefore start low and increase all co-factor nutrients slow too. With B-vitamins its foremost all other B Vitamins.

I never felt dizzy from any of them. Even up to 2 g of thiamine including Benfothiamine a day. The only was choline, causing chaw-stiffness above 300 mg/d. Since increasing inositol to 10g I tolerate higher choline too.