Medical medium? Or copycat extraordinaire

The discussion of advanced medical knowledge now channeled through the Medical Medium Anthony William. This knowledge amounts to perfect Naturopathy. Knowing what causes chronic and other disease, the followers of Linus Pauling extend Naturopathy with human-based nutritional science Pauling called orthomolecular (right molecules) in therapeutic amounts.

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Post Number:#1  Post by Csquared » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:55 pm

Also, there is absolutely zero physiological connection between anything we eat and the strength of our bile. That William isn’t well-versed in basic physiology isn’t surprising, but what is shocking is the fact that people are still falling for William’s outrageous fad, even though it comes from the 5th dimension, not science. In a recent article, William claimed that celery juice helps the ‘stomach gland,’ which doesn’t even exist.


So despite the Medical Medium claiming that "You will not find these answers anywhere else," practically all the information and advice he gives can be found elsewhere. Even his big "shocking" revelation that viruses — especially the Epstein-Barr Virus — are behind most mystery illnesses and autoimmune diseases is actually nothing new. Dr. Randall Tent has been putting out this sort of information for years now, long before the Medical Medium published his book: (see https://youtu.be/r8FCJ_VPyns) Interestingly, many of William’s other health assertions seem to parallel those of Tent. This could be a case of William/Spirit independently and divinely corroborating Tent, but a simpler explanation would be that William has watched Tent presentations at some point (they are all over Youtube) and picked up some of his ideas.


Hmmmm

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Post Number:#2  Post by ofonorow » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:49 am

Curious, where do these quote come from?

Also, there is absolutely zero physiological connection between anything we eat and the strength of our bile. That William isn’t well-versed in basic physiology isn’t surprising, but what is shocking is the fact that people are still falling for William’s outrageous fad,...


Sounds authoritative, but who is saying this?

I am finding that I like Dr. Tent's (long) lecture. And the fact that he agrees with the Medical Medium certainly isn't a knock against the material.

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Post Number:#3  Post by Csquared » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:40 pm

You won't admit that his material is just a compilation of web browsing skills with some psycho-babble thrown in to try to make it seem that he is talking to a spirit?

That is the way I am leaning. But everyone has to make up their own mind I guess.

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Post Number:#4  Post by ofonorow » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:39 am

Also, there is absolutely zero physiological connection between anything we eat and the strength of our bile.


You didn't answer the question about the critique. It is apparently false as written so who is this attributed to?

We know that bile is produced by the liver in response to fat eaten in the diet, e.g., Dr. Sinatra has measured CoQ10 and noticed that if his patients don't eat fat, then CoQ10 isn't absorbed into the blood stream, and Sinatra claims bile is required to absorb CoQ10.

William writes that what he is talking about has not yet been discovered by medical science,


Medical Medium
Liver Rescue
Code Yellow
pg. 13

In this mode, the liver goes into a low level of alert, raising its bile production up to 5 percent, at the same time adjusting bile composition to create a more acidic blend, with even higher sodium levels, amino acids and enzymatic chemical compounds. This chemical function, is unknown to medial research and science, creates a degreasing agent.


Lets consider who is being unduly influenced. I am reading the material myself, and as I have stated, it could not have been written by Anthony William, even with the help of artificial intelligence. I am making up my own mind. You seem to be swayed by quite feeble claims on the Internet, given that there are thousands, perhaps millions on the celery juice protocol alone, the nay sayers are few and far between.

It seems easy to make these hundreds of statements about what science doesn't yet know, but one must possess and enormous body of knowledge to make tenable claims about what is not yet known. I doubt Linus Pauling could have created such a credible hoax.

The forces that are created to oppose the material are legion. The dairy industry, especially the cheese industries, not to mention the meat industry. And if the protocols do work to alleviate mystery illness, by cleansing and revitalizing the liver, then this creates other economic opponents, such as medicine and big pharma. As far as I can determine, so far, the only "industry" that has benefited from this work is the celery "industry".

Did you listen to the Dr. Tent lecture you recommended? Fascinating, and I am now at hour
1 (minute) 17 where is discussing the Epstein-Barr virus, and its relationship to M.S. To my mind this is strong confirmation of the material in Medical Medium. To suggest that Anthony based his material on Dr. Tent's seems absurd. The common link is that Tent claims that cancers are caused by viruses. Anthony says this once - so far in the entire series - that cancers are almost always caused by a virus. That seemed absurd at first to me, but after listening to Dr. Tent, I am now inclined to believe this claim. Anthony discusses the various strains of the individual viruses, their various stages in the body, and the different symptoms the various strain/stage create. Dr. Tent has studied the "hidden" knowledge and has done a wonderful job identifying the problem with vaccinations and viruses.
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Post Number:#5  Post by Csquared » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:37 am

the nay sayers are few and far between.


You are aware of how he buys his reviews,no? He has contests and giveaways for the most glowing reviews.. very spiritual.

I don't have a source for the bile quote. It's in my history somewhere. I didn't think any contrarian information was on trial. You see, you are getting this all wrong. He is the one on trial. His very convenient 'medical science hasn't figured it out yet' is a little too convenient. How is it that we have missed so much that he can't even steer us in a direction to investigate these things? He just makes up all these bold statements, which under further review he is just stealing from theories already out there. No he is the one on trial, seeing as nutrition is so open ended and any theories seem to have their following. Using the old 'low fat' protocols which have already been in widespread use and I think we can safely say have been debunked over the decades since diabetes rates didn't go down but up during those times.

What's even more puzzling is how you have embraced this highly unscientific material which has a high chance of being a complete money making scam
and even when I have shown you where he got a lot of the material you still cling to it. I get it, you want to believe so badly you are willing to look sideways at all evidence to the contrary. But others with proper scientific minds need proof, and he is extremely short on that.

As are most scams.

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Post Number:#6  Post by Csquared » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:39 am

And I am starting on Dr Tent. Lots to go through there.

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Post Number:#7  Post by ofonorow » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:07 am

Not sure why his material creates so much fear and doubt in people, but I have noticed that the more someone is medically trained, the more receptive they are. Either the material is true, or it isn't.


youtube direct link

From a Naturopath:




Oct 31, 2019, 4:01 PM (2 days ago)
to me

boom........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkuWIKx5Ec

at the 58:40-58:59 mark in this video, Anthony is saying " it's not your fault that these formerly vitally needed foods are now not good for you,.. BECAUSE THEY MADE THESE BUGS IN LABORATORY AND LET THEM OUT."...................... BOOM

More details on 'those laboratories'... the when, who, why.. and WHICH 'BUGS'...... kindly?!!.
Kindly explain this........ vaccine labs? aborted baby harvesting organs labs?
Gene editing labs? GMO labs? where's the frankenstein behind this........
and what's the RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THESE 'BUGS' and the RETROVIRUSES that could be in the animal organ grown vax-viruses courtesy of Dr Judy Mikovits?

Would MILITARY WARFARE LABS have been interested in this.... EBV, STREP, etc
AND IF NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH FOR USA..
THEN HOW MANY 3RD WORLD AND CHINA ETC WOULD MESS WITH SUCH EASILY ACCESSED 'GERMS WARFARE'
Think how potent it would be to release such an untraceable plague on the WEST........
The hi-tech braggards say HOW EASY IT IS TO USE *CRISPER* TO TINKER WITH GENETICS.... 60 unknown varieties of EBV, Strep.. etc
Circle the WAGONS...... agreed?




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Post Number:#8  Post by Csquared » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:52 pm

Either the material is true, or it isn't


Or a third option. Some or a lot of the material is valid, but not because of a spirit, because of the work of the imperfect humans he got it from.

This is why it seems to be good to you. The material is from sources you have yet to discover here on earth.

And from what I can see, the more medically trained someone is, the more they see this as not even worth their time, or it generates hostility that he is taking advantage of the millions who don't know anything and are vulnerable.

There is a special kind of hell for him if that is the case.

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Post Number:#9  Post by Csquared » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:33 pm

The vitamin C in cranberries holds similarities to the rare vitamin C in tomatoes in that it increases the liver’s immune system strength.


Straight from Liver Rescue. So on this Vitamin C forum do you see how he just makes stuff up? 2 types of vitamin C? I guess our science just hasn't caught up. Our 2 time Nobel winning Pauling just missed a 'rare' form of vitamin C in one of the most plentiful foods on the planet, tomatoes.

How can it be a 'rare' form if every tomato has it?

See when you are just making stuff up you have to be careful not to trip up as he just did.

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Post Number:#10  Post by ofonorow » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:28 am

I agree, my ears perk up every time (the few times) he mentions vitamin C. And the level of detail is frustrating, e.g., he claims that the vitamin C in celery juice is "methylated" and defines methylation as more "bioavailable." What do we know? We know there are multiple types of vitamin C, e.g. ascorbic acid (hydrogen acorbate), sodium ascorbate, potassium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, and perhaps even iron ascorbate. Ascorbate combines with many things, and perhaps there is a combination in nature we are unaware of?
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Post Number:#11  Post by Csquared » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:30 pm

I think that's the thing with nutrition. There is so much we don't know. It's tempting to look for a shortcut.

Everything he says could be true. So why not try his suggestions, would be maybe a prudent choice. Certainly fruits and vegetables are already known to be good for you so it doesn't look like his advice is harming anyone.

I just have a real issue with someone claiming to be in touch with the spirit of compassion and then charging absolutely outrageous money for the privilege of meeting with him. What about when people desperate for advice take money that was earmarked for medicine, or food, to give to him, which they inevitably would have to. How compassionate is that?

A true spirit of compassion does not act in this manner. Think Mother Theresa, or another of our selfless helpers of humanity. In her case does she go to the slums looking for an angle to try to make money? No, this is a true spirit of compassion in living flesh. Every fibre of my being says this guy is just out to make a buck and cares little about the people he takes money from.

Time will tell I suspect.

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Post Number:#12  Post by ofonorow » Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:03 pm

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The vitamin C in cranberries holds similarities to the rare vitamin C in tomatoes in that it increases the liver’s immune system strength.


Straight from Liver Rescue. So on this Vitamin C forum do you see how he just makes stuff up? 2 types of vitamin C? I guess our science just hasn't caught up. Our 2 time Nobel winning Pauling just missed a 'rare' form of vitamin C in one of the most plentiful foods on the planet, tomatoes.

How can it be a 'rare' form if every tomato has it?

See when you are just making stuff up you have to be careful not to trip up as he just did.


First, rare in the sense that it is only found in tomatoes :shock:

To go back to this topic, lot of water under the bridge, our own science knows of various alternate forms of vitamin C, i.e. analogs with similar properties that were taken to be ascorbate, until newer and better lab equipment found that rather than ASC, these were alternate forms or variations of ascorbate. For example, fungi studied had the following analogs:


Vitamin C: Functions and Biology in Plants and Animals
Ascorbate Biosynthesis: A diversity of pathways -- Chapter 1
1.5 Biosynthesis of ascorbate analogs in fungi

There are numerous reports in the early literature concerning the presence of ASC in filamentous fungi and yeast. However the assay methods employed..... could not distinguish between ASC and other compounds with the same chemical properties. More recent investigations using improved analytical techniques suggest that fungi do not generally contain ASC but instead contain the C analog erythroascorbate (EAA). Sumo fungi also contain 6-deoxyascorbate. Another is D-araboascorbic acid (D-erythorbic acid; d-isoascorbic acid)...

As early as 1967, Yasuda reported a presence in yeast (Candida) of EAA, a five-carbon analog of ASC with very similar reducing properties.


Pretty deep knowledge for just "making stuff up."

Not only that, but human knowledge has discovered that vitamin C can be conjugated as follows - including "methylated."


Book: Vitamin C: Functions and biochemistry in animals and plants.
Ascorbic Acid Catabolism
2.2.4 Conjugation reactions
pg. 35

Besides its degradation, ASC can also be converted by several enzymes of the second phase of biotransformation. It can be conjugated with sulphate, phosphate, glucuroronic aicd or methyl groups at the second carbon.

The exact metabolic role of these derivative is not known, but they could serve as an easily accessible ASC source enlarging the available endogenous pool.


At every step of the way, things that sound absurd on their face, pan out. The underlying theory in the MM books, is comprehensive and sound. Ignore it at your peril.
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