ASEA redox

[jimmylesante]

Any views on this ASEA redox drink- has sodium chloride and water but says this is electrolysed and creates redox molecules that help all cells.

I don't see how? Perhaps adds extra hydrogen or extra oxygen/ozone?
thanks for any ideas?

[eDOC]

Not worth it, specially with your issues could aggravate them.
Increases production of H2O2, HOCL, and singlet O.
Like Mucuna pruriens, in articles contains L-Dopa, but clinically at a dose of 12 grams twice daily had none effects on my Parkinson patients. (Got from a guy who specializes in herbs, to experiment though he mentioned that alone would be of no help).

eDOC!!

[jimmylesante]

H2O2 HOCL and O are all oxidants so works as oxidisers?
My issue is fatitis went to 177kg now down to 162kg had a stop in ED last weekend BP still 220/140 so had CT scans done and bloods. Current BP180/120 so improving already.
I doubt DMSO would work with me until lost the weight?
Good to see you back on the forums

[eDOC]

Correct all are oxidizers, but as posted earlier in your case could aggravate atherosclerosis and start other serious cardiac and non cardiac issues. Oxidizers in health are good but in ailments, specially cardiac etc. can lead to a vicious cycle.
Exercise/walk etc. eat fresh healthy, take liver support Silymarin 200 mg x2/3 with 5 mL of oral DMSO x1 daily.

Have a great night.

eDOC!!

[jimmylesante]

Thanks eDOC have referred back to your protocol and adding IV DMSO in as well.
So if you took this ASEA with oxidants in to take an antioxidant at the same time say vitamin C would they negate each other.? I'm guessing they would such as treatment for cancer can be using oxidation and then vitamin C would reduce the treatment.
How long do you think there will be liver changes ...say to reverse NAFLD? 2 weeks?

[jimmylesante]

Already reading 188/126 sitting which is better than before.

[eDOC]

Nice to know that you are witnessing some minor improvements.
Correct would negate, and at times the antioxidant might not be able to rectify it.
I don't use oxidants to treat preexisting cardiac or metabolic diseases.
I have a protocol for every disease that I treat, and customize it accordingly.
To reverse NAFLD, it takes me max. 6 days of treatment.

Read this:
https://vitamincfoundation.com/forum/vi ... hp?t=16056

This 45 yr old moderately obese lady suffering from severe metabolic syndrome, poorly controlled diabetes, hypertension, sinus tachycardia 123 bpm, hypertriglyceridemia, fatty liver infiltration grade 3, UTI yeasts, HbA1c 12.5, BP 160/120, TG 1,025, elevated oxidized LDL fraction, IL-6 and 8, uterine fibroids, thickened bladder lining and much more. Pretreatment labs, 6 days of treatment and repeat labs. Was on on conventional meds, Norvasc (amlodpine) 10+5, Janumet (Sitagliptin/Metformin) 50/500 twice daily, developed ankle edema on day 3, checked pressures which were and are 120/70, so took her off both and it disappeared too. Her GTT was slightly raised, as she had cholecystectomy some yrs. back.

It's been approx. 4 months, I do occasionally call to check, she has perfect labs, none conventional meds or supplements and is more energetic than me.........Earlier every fortnightly she used to be rushed to the ER with symptoms of angina, high BP but not anymore.

eDOC!!


PS: You need to watch your weight and pressures seriously, and are both linked.
Just checked I weigh 84 kg, never have crossed 70 kg all my life, need to work out more.

[jimmylesante]

Great ,,, wow 6 days, did the liver look better in that time or would take longer?
I'm on the 320mg silymarin and 5ml DMSO and gotten flu symptoms , probably a Herx . Will do a 30ml DMSO drip on thursday.

[eDOC]

Correct 6 days of daily treatment session.
Liver looked perfectly healthy, no evidence of necrosis, fibrosis, post therapy.
Your dosages of both Silymarin and DMSO are low, so are the routes.
Herxheimer... most probably hepatocytes, adipocytes loaded with toxins and a leaky gut too.
She never experienced a herxheimer in 6 days of daily 12/16 mL pushes followed by 80 mL infusions....

eDOC!!

[jimmylesante]

Wow so the liver if scanned afterwards would /did look normal or very improved.
I don't understand these 12ml /16ml pushes you and Owen were talking about... with 50% or more of DMSO causing haemolysis. I'm guessing you use NS and a couple of ml of DMSO? I'm using 30ml in a 500ml bag.
The 320mg is the silymarin aspect but i noted this could be BDS or even TDS? Can silymarin be IV as well and if so where can one get it?
Yes i felt a toxic release because started after mowing lawn and playing with the kids for a few hoursas part of the moving more . It hurts and the skin is hurting as it is starting too heal - about 20% ecema- disc lesion.

[eDOC]

Correct, after treatment liver looked normal/healthy and lab values well within normal ranges.
No labs, scans shared?
Discoid eczema, never witnessed in 14 yrs. Possible reasons could be the brand, storage, shelf life of DMSO or a helminth infection?
Never required or used injectable Silymarin, don't know of any source, search the net.
Hemolysis never occurs with a 50% push. I did suffer with a 50% infusion in'12, 125 mL in 250 mL. Nothing serious just a few dark, red urine and than went away after the 5th.
Caution to be exercised in those with pre existing A-Fib (may suffer a minor episode at high dose push) or genetic hematological conditions.
I feel your situation is complex, requiring experience, monitoring labs etc., you would be better of using ASEA + LP.

Goodluck.

eDOC!!


Added:
Though @Nik2201, tolerated 12 mL pushes well despite A-Fib when was treating him. He did mention slight fluttery feeling at that. After which I kept him btw 8-10. Now is all cured of A-Fib!!