ofonorow wrote:While I applaud your attempts to read the existing science, I highly recommend a book that should cure you of the desire to read today's medical "science.". True science works, but what medicine call science is often propaganda to market pharmaceutical products. It has to be good enough to fool quite a few intelligent people - medical doctors. I highly recommend the book TARNISHED GOLD (by Hickey/Roberts lulu.com/ascorbate).
As a test, Do you believe that a study with a large number of subjects is better science or a small study with far fewer subjects? (Answer at the bottom).
For me, any understanding the basic value in what you are looking at, the Hickey book is a must!
Back to this topic. There are lots of statements that simply are not true in this post.
#1. Vitamin C does not raise blood sugar! (In my own case, while I was following Pauling and taking 18,000 mg, my blood sugar on professional lab tests was always 90 mg/dl on the button. For many many years.)
Realize that if the blood concentration of vitamin C is 1.5 mg/dl (max) and glucose is 90 mg/dl, then vitamin C is only 1% of blood compared to glucose and almost impossible to raise for more than 30 minutes (before the kidneys do their job).
IV/C dosages have been measured to raise blood concentrations by thousands of times, and these concentrations can effect some glucose meters (which register both glucose and ascorbate.)
So your dad has no worried that vitamin C might raise his sugar. As you mention, vitamin C is good for Type II diabetics. Perhaps you should start a topic on lowering blood sugar? We have discussed that here at length, but not in a single post.
I haven't mentioned this in a while, hope the web site is still there, but a fellow cured his own Type II diabetes by looking at the old (buried) scientific literature. The story and his protocol (basically avoid trans fats) used to be at healingmatters.com. Yes Thomas Smith is still there and this is the article I saw in a magazine that led me to Smith's web site. http://healingmatters.com/deception.htm
#2 If high vitamin C (GULO-Replacement) caused one to retain too much Iron, why am I of all people anemic? Low iron and my doctor recommends iron supplements. This leads into a discussion of Russell Jaffee and vitamin C's special affinity for metals (which allows vitamin C to grab metals such as lead, iron, mercury, etc. - and help the body get rid of them through the urine.) Copper is an interesting question, but not here and not now.
#3 I'll deal with the cholesterol issue in another post, but Pauling cites Ginter (many of his abstracts in our Clinical Studies forum) and determined that in humans, high vitamin C will normalize cholesterol to 180 mg/dl. It is uncanny how many people on vitamin C report that number, including myself for many many years.
Answer to trivia question.
Small studies can measure large effects.
The massive studies usually conducted in medicine are so big because the effects are usually so small.
These massive studies are not "science" because they cannot be repeated by other scientists. A basic tenet of the scientific method.
I very much appreciate the long post.
you have answered many of my questions.
I think my dad's blood sugar issue as well as his afib, is because he has really low total Testostrone and T/E ratio(it should be 30+ and his is 7), fasting blood sugar 144
a1c 7
total cholesterol 114
Ive read enough to realize you want testosterone, so getting old is a pain, but he needs to start TRT, and keep his numbers under control
A Harvard expert shares his thoughts on testosterone-replacement therapy, its safe if you keep numbers under control
http://www.harvardprostateknowledge.org ... nt-therapyhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18832284Low testosterone and the association with type 2 diabetes.
Reduced testosterone levels in males with lone atrial fibrillation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19143004those are just some abstracts I pulled off pubmed, showcasing what I mean.
I read studies first hand accounts to know VC doesnt raise Glucose, if the meter can differentiate between VC and glucose, which most cheap meters cant