I get flatulent gas on the required high doses
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:03 pm
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Your book "Practicing Medicine Without a License" was an absolute eye opener. Very well written and quite informative on the cause of Atherosclerosis. I referred your book to two friends. It is very sad that the medical establishment is more motivated by profit than actually helping their patients with natural products other than pharmaceuticals, stents, surgery etc.
I have been a vegetarian for many years. To my dismay and shock I learned that my Calcium arterial scan read a high 2200 despite having no outward symptoms of any disease at the age of 78.
That was 3 years ago. For 22 months thereafter, I was convinced that the Ornish/Esselstyn therapy of living foods and low oil and fat was the way to go to lower my calcification....only to be shocked and disappointed when my score rose to 2400. For 8 months thereafter I did the Dr. Gary Mezo therapy called Nanobac. Yes, the therapy worked but not to my expectations. The calcium score only went down 2% ....at least it didn't go up! I am now doing Plaquex and Cavadex IV therapies. The Cavadex uses beta cyclodextrin to remove calcification. But neither of these 2 protocols get to the source of the problem which seems to be a genetic disposition for high lipoprotein (a) aggravated by other factors like homocysteine, c-reactive protein, low levels of D3 and K2, oxidized cholesterol etc etc. In fact the genetic company, 23 & Me, just hooked up with a Pharmaceutical firm for research on LP (a). Owen, they should have called you up for an easy solution using the Linus Pauling research.
I spoke yesterday to Sally of Tower Labs. Her suggestion was to use 1 scoop of the Heart Tech during the morning, 1 scoops of Heart Tech later in the day, and two of the Ascorsine at night as it could be the Creatine that is accentuating the flatulence problem in the Ascornine. Also, it was agreed taking the product after after having food.
I am a little versed in the work of the cardiologist Dr. Roberts in Ohio. In some of his old papers he mentioned Heart Tech for vitamin C and for those who have a toleration problem to take a buffered Vitamin C complexed with GMS-Ribose. I confirmed with his office that this was American Nutraceuticals Vitality C. I have been led to believe that a buffered solution may not be as effective as ascorbic acid as proclaimed by Dr. Linus Pauling.
Thank you for your suggestions. I will check out Cardio C and I like your idea of sipping the product throughout the day and taking less.
Best, M
Martin wrote:>>> Vitamin C and Lysine by themselves seem to have little immediate affect on calcium scores,<<<
Owen: Would not lowering your LP(a) score also lower your calcium score within a shorter period of time than 1 year? Lipoprotein(a) scores have been shown to change within 3 months after taking Vitamin C, lysine megadoses.
Also, what is your take on buffered Vitamin C compared to ascorbic acid??? Of course we know the latter works as it follows Dr. Pauling's recommendation but if one can avoid the digestive upset, isn't buffered somewhat better. According to the American Nutraceutical company, it's Vitality C brand with GMS-Ribose and sodium, is more readily absorbed.
On another note which I thought would be of interest are the therapies Plaquex and Cavadex. As a new member of this board, please excuse the fact that I have not been familiar with all the discussion. But given that vitamin C for atherosclerosis is the main consideration, I thought mentioning 2 other protocols would be of interest.
20-30 sessions of Plaquex IV should lower your calcium score by at least 20-30% after a few months. The active ingredient is Polyenylphosphatidylcholine. I am now on this therapy aside from Cavadex and Vitamin C. Plaquex has been utilized in Europe for many years and practitioners in the U.S. can be found. Go to the Plaquex website and buy the book below. It is believed that PC (for short) passes the brain barrier and may also help with Dementia.
https://biorica.biz/en/books/333-plaquex.htm
Cavadex is relatively new. Dr. Roberts has shown that it lowers plaque in the carotid arteries. Go to his website for his discussion on it. The active ingredient beta cyclodextrin has been tested in lab tests and in mice models for over 30 years but not given to humans intrathecally it affects hearing. But taking it via IV or through a suppository, it works to lift plaque from arteries. . It is not a drug. According to the Cavadex website: "It is a ring-shaped FDA approved starch that absorbs cholesterol from artery walls. Unlike drugs, Cavadex is not broken down and absorbed by the body. Cavadex circulates around the vascular system collecting cholesterol and leaves the body intact via urine. Cavadex has no side effects because it is not metabolized by the body. Cyclodextrins have been used safely in medicine for over 30 years"... for drug transport and it is also found in many foods. Nieman-Pick disease is an illness where children cannot metabolize cholesterol properly. By the time they reach teen years many die young from a build up of cholesterol in their brains. A company called Cyclo Therapeutics in Gainesville, has FDA fast track approval for the use of Cyclo Dextrin in the treatment of this disease. Undoubtedly, the company is also working for its use to remove placque for those suffering from Atherosclerosis. Disclaimer: Best to do one's own research on Plaquex and Cavadex for their viability in treating Atherosclerosis.
Of course, I see the problem with both Plaquex and Cavadex as not getting to the source of the problem....the Vitamin C connection and the build up of collagen and elastin to provide the matrix for our arteries.
Of note: I was under the impression in my 22 months of following Ornish/Esselstyn program that I was getting enough Vitamin C with the fruits and vegetarian diet I was taking. Apparently not so, as my Coronary arterial calcium score continued to climb. I have learned through Dr. Robbins, Owen's book and Dr. Rath etc that it is the LP (a)...a genetic component that is the major source of the problem and that other extenuating circumstances like crp levels, homocysteine, stress, cortisol etc etc play a part. I had considered taking niacin but did not like the flushing effect until I learned of extended release brands. Too much niacin can effect your liver enzymes and increase homocysteine levels.