Re: Is Corona just the cover story

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:34 am

Artur Pawlowski Shows You Just How People Have Not Learned Lessons From Nazi Past

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:07 am

New Documentary on The PCR Test Deception is Banned on YouTube - Share this Film with Skeptics
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Saw · Post by **Saw** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:24 am

Australia: Watch How This Man Reportedly Handles A COVID Compliance Check

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Saw · Post by **Saw** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 pm

Andrew Kaufman Vs Judy Mikovits On Her Theory On Viruses

Post by **ofonorow** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:47 am

This video is a little comical. The basic Kaufman argument in this video is made on a false premise - that a retrovirus should be able to be isolated as a particulate, because as Mikovitz says, it cannot be cultured (grown) without cellular machinery.

This idea of purification is a red herring.

I've seen the electron microscopes of various viruses.

As far as viruses being the "boogey man," there are people running our bioweapons programs who would like people to believe what Kaufman is saying.

Smears Mikovitz, because she doesn't believe that other vaccines are okay, on the contrary, she believes and warns that all injections are harmful. She has not part in any vaccine program. Her anger is from the "Church denying that planets revolve around the sun."

Since Kaufman demands "papers," where are the scientific papers that support his "toxin" theory of disease?

Added, today, DNA testing can determine the nature of an infection (as opposed to the standard practice of growing an organism in culture.) I had such a test recently, that determined that I had a MRSA infection on my leg. We also learn from Dr. Tennant, that there are various organisms without membranes that cannot be cultured. But the DNA can be analysed. Viruses have between 8,000 and 10,000 base pairs. I was thinking that it would be interesting to know Kaufman's financial entanglements because his "anti science" position, esp. attacking Mikovitz, would benefit certain well funded entities.

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:20 pm

ofonorow wrote:This video is a little comical. The basic Kaufman argument in this video is made on a false premise - that a retrovirus should be able to be isolated as a particulate, because as Mikovitz says, it cannot be cultured (grown) without cellular machinery.

Judy's the one dragging retro viruses into the argument, avoids the argument (she knows the answer and responds with but... but... retroviruses)
Kaufman is asking for proof of isolation of any virus. That's "ANY" in case you missed it!

ofonorow wrote: I've seen the electron microscopes of various viruses.

So? No one is arguing their existence

ofonorow wrote:As far as viruses being the "boogey man," there are people running our bioweapons programs who would like people to believe what Kaufman is saying.

Exact opposite! Not only do they want people to believe in the boogey man, but a boogey man so dangerous and
indestructible that only they can save you from it.
Hint: if they could do what they claim you would be dead. They could have easily just put on a real pandemic.
No need for masks or injections to kill people off.

ofonorow wrote:Since Kaufman demands "papers," where are the scientific papers that support his "toxin" theory of disease?

Aren't these papers everywhere? virologists poisoning cells then claiming the unisolated virus created the mess?
Isn't this what Virologist Stefan Lanka "Proved" with his control experiments?
Did you even watch/listen?

From Virologist Lanka - The control experiments they refuse to do since 1954!!! this is the smoking gun.

or English interpretation by Kaufman

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:56 pm

BC Doctor reviews 'shocking' stats from released Pfizer documents
Just Wow!!!

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:02 pm

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Saw · Post by **Saw** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:14 pm

EU MEP challenges Ursula Von Der Leyen over her attempts to mandate the Treatment

Janah · Post by **Janah** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:38 am

Saw wrote:Artur Pawlowski Shows You Just How People Have Not Learned Lessons From Nazi Past

IRONIC , how its the JEWS who are behind this today and doing it to us , just in a much more evil and wicked way and on a grander scale , world wide jewish bio weapon masss genocide , and they even make people "focus" on the germans / "nazies" with propoganda like this , taking the view and blame away from the Jews who are behind this whole operation with green pass and bio weapon vax

Post by **ofonorow** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:13 am

Kaufman is asking for proof of isolation of any virus. That's "ANY" in case you missed it!

ofonorow wrote:
I've seen the electron microscopes of various viruses.

So? No one is arguing their existence

? Isn't that exactly what people who claim viruses haven't been isolated are saying?

ofonorow wrote:
Since Kaufman demands "papers," where are the scientific papers that support his "toxin" theory of disease?

Aren't these papers everywhere? virologists poisoning cells then claiming the unisolated virus created the mess?
Isn't this what Virologist Stefan Lanka "Proved" with his control experiments?
Did you even watch/listen?

Everywhere? I watched the video. Aren't they are trying to "culture" cells? I am missing an important point. And their proof "has been conclusively shown" ? Where are the references?

Maybe you can state their basic theory for me. It is known that disease-agents, such as viruses, fungal spores, prions, etc. agents which have no cell membranes, cannot be cultured. They invade cells and "steal" the cellular machinery to reproduce.

Given this new theory that viruses are what, inactive?, what is the explanation for the transmission of HIV? The Flu or the common cold? Please explain what is "really" happening?

BTW, Mikovitz agrees that the so called Covid-ccp virus cannot be transmitted between human beings.

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:43 pm

Dr. Philippe Van Welbergen - In Depth Anaysis of Blood from Vaxxed

Saw · Post by **Saw** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:12 pm

ofonorow wrote:BTW, Mikovitz agrees that the so called Covid-ccp virus cannot be transmitted between human beings

You really like your viruses.

It's been obvious since april 2020 that there is no virus.
Most thinking people came to this conclusion by april regardless if they believed in "Virus Theory" or not.
You didn't need a doctor,biologist or virologist to tell you.
It was self evident!!!

AIDS? hasn't that been thoroughly debunked probably 10 years ago.
This is virology...
Kary Mullis - Inventor of PCR

Post by **ofonorow** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:58 am

You really like your viruses.

Arguing they don't exist or cause disease reminds me of the flat earth society. You avoided the question, what replaces the virus as the "cause" of these illnesses? .

It's been obvious since april 2020 that there is no virus.

Correction, if anything was "obvious," it was that no sample of the virus could be supplied to researchers, and that the so called Covid-ccp was not being transmitted. People did and are getting sick. My theory is that the Flu was counted as Covd illness during 2020. Mikovitz believes that flu shots were used to transmit the illness. . Dr. Lee Merrit believes that it was "aerosolised, " perhaps by something like the chem trail spraying.

I'm trying to understand what the alternative causative agent that is being blamed for the illnesses?

Most thinking people came to this conclusion by april regardless if they believed in "Virus Theory" or not.
You didn't need a doctor,biologist or virologist to tell you.
It was self evident!!!

Maybe "thinking" people with good information. But again you avoid explaining what was really going on? I'm writing this while listening to Kary Mullis. (How does inventing the PCR test give him the credentials to debunk the viral theory? )

I'm waiting for the explanation of what people who "think" they have AIDS are really dying from..

if.

AIDS? hasn't that been thoroughly debunked probably 10 years ago.
This is virology...
Kary Mullis - Inventor of PCR

Well, you haven't

Debunked? In what way? Focusing on the "lying bastard" buffoon Gallo does nothing to make the case that HIV doesn't cause AIDS. Even Mullis admits there are "thousands of retroviruses"... Okay, so lets drop HIV (which was engineered by the US in my opinion) and go to the common cold or the flu? What is the real cause of these illnesses?

As an aside, still waiting for what Kary thinks really causes AIDS... "it doesn't mater a damn what causes AIDS.. It may be causal for some who get HIV..."..

Anyway, the entire theme of the 5 or 6 Anthony William/Medical Medium books is that most chronic illness that we humans suffer is due to viruses in our tissues. These viruses are in various stages, with later "active" stages shedding or emitting toxins that cause a wide variety of symptoms.

sjmusic2 · Post by **sjmusic2** » Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:32 pm

Owen, with the greatest of respect do you actually read what you write in this forum ?

You demand proof of the toxin theory and state Saw's arguments remind you of Flat Earthers then proffer 'Medical Medium' viruses as the source of most chronic disease. I'm assuming you believe it because you read it in the MM book or do you have actual proof. The irony is thick.

I don't offer support for either theory, just wanted to point out the hypocrisy of your argument.

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